winamp three is finally out of beta! it's running rather nicely, but of course the "music detect" feature under the livejournal client for windows doesn't support it. but it looks better, sounds better, and the built in crossfader actually works! my desktop box is showing it's age tho, winamp now takes longer to load and skin swaps freeze the player for a second. i need to upgrade off the celeron four.hundred stat.